Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions, Gretchen, and Joel's previous advice was also very helpful as acknowledged. We'll be following this patient very closely re her coming for her shots, and we'll try to adapt as things unfold. We don't have tons of resources in our small county in Florida--and we're even battling with proposed ADAP cutbacks, but we have a fantastic case manager who has a growing relationship with this patient so we're pretty optimistic. Steve
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Stephen Bickel
TN
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-01-2026 13:29
From: Gretchen Miller Carolan
Subject: Emerging drug resistance
I agree with Joel. I think this option is better than no option or a daily oral at this point. Sometimes just being willing to explore options that may help the patient situation in many other ways may be good - the worry as I hear it may be her willingness or ability to come in for her shots as scheduled, as this will require a few more touch points during a 12 month period than oral biktarvy does. I always try to asses what are the primary barriers to whatever it is we are proposing as perceived or experienced by my patients and try my best to work with them to overcome them or to at least minimize them. Does your clinic offer transportation vouchers or Lyft vouchers or bus passes or gas cards etc to help make the maybe more frequent drive easier? Do you have access to a mobile health team that will administer LA meds such as Cabenuva? (I live in Louisville and we have a local team through U of L that does mobile LA tx- it's amazing!!). Way to advocate for your patients !!
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Gretchen Miller Carolan
Pewee Valley KY
Original Message:
Sent: 03-11-2026 17:50
From: Stephen Bickel
Subject: Emerging drug resistance
Thanks, Joel, for your valuable advice as usual. And I totally agree with you about worrying about her "disappearing acts"-that is my biggest worry as well. She has had a lot of personal setbacks in the last couple years-her son dying for starters-and she really is a sweetheart and has a great relationship with one of our case managers so I'm hoping we can leverage that into a very intensive follow-up/relationship with her to make sure she comes on time for her injections. And the other thing we found out during her last visit was how challenging the N&V from Biktarvy has been for her-more than we realized-she has had to fight the nausea every time she takes it to keep from throwing it up-so it's probably become almost a phobia for her by now-hence she was begging us to switch her to the Cabenuva shots-so fingers crossed, with a little luck this might just work out, as it has for many other PLWH. Thanks again, Steve
Original Message:
Sent: 3/11/2026 3:50:00 PM
From: Joel Gallant
Subject: RE: Emerging drug resistance
Steve
With respect to Cabenuva, I'd be more worried about her tendency to disappear than I would about the T66A mutation. Still, if she can't tolerate Biktarvy, she's probably not going to do well with any oral regimen. Cabenuva, combined with intensive adherence counseling and outreach services, may be her best bet. When it's used in poorly adherent patients, it's never an optimal situation, but it's not only worked for many such people, but has sometimes been lifesaving.
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Joel Gallant, MD, MPH
Johns Hopkins University
Baltimore, MD
AXCES Research Group
Santa Fe, NM
Original Message:
Sent: 03-11-2026 01:48
From: Stephen Bickel
Subject: Emerging drug resistance
I have a patient who has had very sporadic medical follow up over the last couple years as well as a history of taking her Biktarvy irregularly and possibly more importantly vomiting frequently after taking her Biktarvy. Kind of a perfect storm for inducing drug resistance. She now wants to try Cabenuva instead. She had an HIV RNA level of 1280 in December 2023 but was lost to follow up until September 2025 when it was 4220 (with a genotype showing no resistance to NRTIs, NNRTIs, PIs, or INSTIs). Her repeat HIV RNA was 1970 in December but this time her genotype revealed a T66A/T mutation predicting resistance to elvitegravir. I checked out the IAS-USA website and it noted that a T66K mutation predicts resistance to cabotegravir but not a T66A mutation. I also noted that T66 mutations of any type don't confer resistance to bictegravir--but she's not tolerating (and/or regularly taking) Biktarvy so continuing it seems a strategy likely to fail. Should I be concerned about using cabotegravir (in Cabenuva) because of the T66A mutation? Thanks, Steve
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Stephen Bickel
TN
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